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| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**P**</font> | something (x) counts as predation |
| <font color="CC6600">**Q**</font> | something (x) involves an animal (y) regularly capturing another animal (z) |
| <font color="CC6600">**R**</font> | something (x) involves an animal (y) regularly killing another animal (z) |
| <font color="CC6600">**S**</font> | something (x) involves an animal (y) regularly subduing another animal (z) |
| <font color="CC6600">**T**</font> | something (x) involves an animal (y) regularly consuming, to the captor's benefit, another animal (z) |
| <font color="CC6600">**a**</font> | animal agriculture |
| <font color="CC6600">**h**</font> | humans |
| <font color="CC6600">**l**</font> | livestock |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> Something counts as predation if, and only if, something involves an animal regularly capturing, killing or subduing, and consuming, to the captor's benefit, another animal.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x∀y∀z(Px↔Qxyz∧(Rxyz∨Sxyz)∧Txyz))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Animal agriculture involves humans regularly capturing livestock.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Qahl)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> Animal agriculture involves humans regularly killing or subduing livestock.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Rahl∨Sahl)</b>
<br />
<b>P4)</b></font> Animal agriculture involves humans regularly consuming, to the captors' benefit, livestock.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Tahl)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, animal agriculture counts as predation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴Pa)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x~6y~6z(Px~4Qxyz~1(Rxyz~2Sxyz)~1Txyz)),(Qahl),(Rahl~2Sahl),(Tahl)|=(Pa))
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### Ethical Factory Farming Reductio
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**D**</font> | a predator (x) engages in predation (y) |
| <font color="CC6600">**R**</font> | it is the case that we ought stop the predator (x) from engaging in predation (y) |
| <font color="CC6600">**a**</font> | human |
| <font color="CC6600">**m**</font> | factory farming pigs |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> If a predator engages in predation, then it is not the case that we ought stop the predator from engaging in said predation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x∀y(Dxy→¬Rxy))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Humans engage in factory farming pigs.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Dam)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, it is not the case that we ought stop humans from engaging in factory farming pigs.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬Ram)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x~6y(Dxy~5~3Rxy)),(Dam)|=(~3Ram))
---
# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#predators

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### Flash's NTT Argument
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**W**</font> | a being (x) has moral worth |
| <font color="CC6600">**N**</font> | we should exploit a being (x) to any greater degree than we would tolerate for humans |
| <font color="CC6600">**t**</font> | trait |
| <font color="CC6600">**a**</font> | animal |
| <font color="CC6600">**h**</font> | human |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> For all things, if a being has moral worth, then we should not exploit it to any greater degree than we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Wx→Nx))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> If animals don’t have moral worth, then there exists a trait that is absent in animals such that if it were absent in humans, humans wouldn’t have moral worth.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Wa→∃t(Ata→(Ath→¬Wh)))</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> There doesn’t exist a trait that is absent in animals such that if it were absent in humans, humans wouldn’t have moral worth.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬∃t(Ata→(Ath→¬Wh)))</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, we should not exploit animals to any greater degree than we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴Na)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Wx~5Nx)),(~3Wa~5~7t(Ata~5(Ath~5~3Wh))),(~3~7t(Ata~5(Ath~5~3Wh))),(Wa)|=(Na))
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# Vegan Society Definition Tho
| <font color="CC6600">**Defineindum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:----------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------ |
| <font color="CC6600">V</font> | it is vegan to do something (x) |
| <font color="CC6600">E</font> | something (x) exploits animals (y) |
| <font color="CC6600">A</font> | a being (x) is an animal |
| <font color="CC6600">e</font> | eat |
| <font color="CC6600">g</font> | Groot |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> For all things, it is vegan to do something if and only if that thing does not exploit animals.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Vx↔¬Ex))</b>
</font>
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P2)</b></font> If some beings are not animals, then eating those beings does not exploit animals.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x∀y(¬Ax→¬E(e(y))))</b>
</font>
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P3)</b></font> Groot is not an animal.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Ag)</b>
</font>
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, it is vegan to eat Groot.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴V(e(g)))</b>
</font>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Vx~4~3Ex)),(~6x~6y(~3Ax~5~3E(e(y)))),(~3Ag)|=(V(e(g))))
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# Nick's Definition of Veganism
>Veganism is an applied ethical position that advocates for the equal, trait-adjusted application of commonplace human rights (such as the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights) to non-human sentient beings.
#### Terms:
**Sentient being:** an entity for whom a subjective experience can be reasonably argued, such as with vertebrate animals.
**Right:** an entitlement to an action, that if not performed, or an inaction, that if performed, would be bad in principle (meaning independent of utility concerns). For example, if others perform an action that deprives me of X, or fail to take an action necessary for me to have X, it would be considered wrong in principle, independent of the consequences or utility of such actions or inactions.
---
# Hashtags
#arguments
#philosophy
#propositional_logic
#logic
#ethics
#animals
#vegan

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### Pollination Reductio
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**V**</font> | something (x) is vegan |
| <font color="CC6600">**E**</font> | something (x) does not involve human on non-human animal exploitation |
| <font color="CC6600">**P**</font> | the products (x) generated are not vegan |
| <font color="CC6600">**b**</font> | bees pollinating human crops |
| <font color="CC6600">**a**</font> | apples |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> Something is vegan if, and only if, something does not involve human on non-human animal exploitation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Vx↔¬Ex))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Bees pollinating human crops involves human on non-human exploitation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Eb)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> If bees pollinating human crops is not vegan, then the products generated are not vegan.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Vb→∀x(¬Px))</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, apples are not vegan.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬Pa)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Vx~4~3Ex)),(Eb),(~3Vb~5~6x(~3Px))|=(~3Pa))
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments

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### Anti-Rewilding
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**W**</font> | something (x) has negative rights |
| <font color="CC6600">**N**</font> | we should defend something (x) from rights violations to any lesser degree than we would tolerate for humans |
| <font color="CC6600">**F**</font> | it is permissible to subject animals to conditions that are likely to involve predation, starvation, or death due to environmental exposure to any greater degree than we would tolerate for humans |
| <font color="CC6600">**a**</font> | animal |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> For all things, if something has negative rights, then we should not defend it from rights violations to any lesser degree than we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Wx→¬Nx))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Animals have negative rights.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Wa)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> If we should not defend animals from rights violations to any lesser degree than we would tolerate for humans, then it is not permissible to subject animals to conditions that are likely to involve predation, starvation, or death due to environmental exposure to any greater degree than we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Na→¬F)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, it is not permissible to subject animals to conditions that are likely to involve predation, starvation, or death due to environmental exposure to any greater degree than we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬F)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Wx~5~3Nx)),(Wa),(~3Na~5~3F)|=(~3F))
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments

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### Argument Against Marineland Vandalism
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> If Marineland must spend extra money cleaning graffiti, then Marineland will have less money to devote to animal care.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(P→Q)</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Marineland must spend extra money cleaning graffiti.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(P)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> If Marineland will have less money to devote to animal care, then vandalizing Marineland increases the probability of harming the animals they keep.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Q→R)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, vandalizing Marineland increases the probability of harming the animals they keep.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴R)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(P~5Q),(P),(Q~5R)|=(R))
---
# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#vegan
#orca

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### Argument for Fin Collapse Abnormality
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<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> If a killer whale with a collapsed dorsal fin is healthy, then collapsed dorsal fins are normal.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(P→Q)</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Collapsed dorsal fins are not normal.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Q)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, a killer whale with a collapsed dorsal fin is not healthy.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬P)</b>
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(P~5Q),(~3Q)|=(~3P))
### Argument for P2
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> If empirical data shows that most killer whales do not succumb to dorsal fin collapse, then collapsed dorsal fins are not normal.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬R→¬Q)</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Empirical data shows that most killer whales do not succumb to dorsal fin collapse.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬R)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, collapsed dorsal fins are not normal.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬Q)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~3R~5~3Q),(~3R)|=(~3Q))
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#vegan
#orca

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## Non-Violence Displacement of Nature
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> If the natural world contains intolerable rights violations and we do not know if nature is net positive or net negative for utility and there is not any known practical means by which to end the rights violations beyond the use of force and the natural world is not currently instrumentally vital to facilitating human flourishing, then we are justified in displacing nature into non-existence.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(P∧¬Q∧¬R∧¬S→T)</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Nature entails intolerable rights violations.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(P)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> We do not know if nature is net positive or net negative for utility.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Q)</b>
<br />
<b>P4)</b></font> There is not any known practical means by which to end the rights violations beyond the use of force.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬R)</b>
<br />
<b>P5)</b></font> The natural world is not currently instrumentally vital to facilitating human flourishing.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬S)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, we are justified in displacing nature into non-existence.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴T)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(P~1~3Q~1~3R~1~3S~5T),(P),(~3Q),(~3R),(~3S)|=(T))
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#vegan

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### Crop Deaths Rebuttal
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> If it is known that cropland leads to more animal death than wildland, then there is evidence that cropland leads to more animal death than wildland.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(P→Q)</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> There is not evidence that cropland leads to more animal death than wildland.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Q)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, it is not known that cropland leads to more animal death than wildland.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬P)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(P~5Q),(~3Q)|=(~3P))
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### Cropland vs Pastureland
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/ecog.05126
### Cropdeaths Article
https://anupamkatkar.com/2015/10/08/debunking-cultivating-crops-for-vegans-kills-more-animals-than-pasture-grazing-livestock/#Footnote2
---
# Hashtags
#arguments

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### Obligatory Activism
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**C**</font> | one has an obligation to convince others of something (x) |
| <font color="CC6600">**M**</font> | something (x) is a moral obligation |
| <font color="CC6600">**v**</font> | veganism |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> One has an obligation to convince others of something if and only if that something is a moral obligation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Cx↔Mx))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Veganism is a moral obligation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Mv)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, one has an obligation to convince others of veganism.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴Cv)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Cx~4Mx)),(Mv)|=(Cv))
#### Reductio
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**C**</font> | one has an obligation to convince others of something (x) |
| <font color="CC6600">**M**</font> | something (x) is a moral obligation |
| <font color="CC6600">**r**</font> | not raping others |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> One has an obligation to convince others of something if, and only, if that something is a moral obligation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Cx↔Mx))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Not raping others is a moral obligation.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Mr)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, one has an obligation to convince others to not rape others.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴Cr)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Cx~4Mx)),(Mr)|=(Cr))
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#clownery

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### Culling Odd Order Predators
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
| <font color="CC6600">**W**</font> | something (x) has negative rights |
| <font color="CC6600">**N**</font> | we should defend something (x) from rights violations to any lesser degree than we would tolerate for humans |
| <font color="CC6600">**F**</font> | it is permissible to prevent predation with lethal force to the same degree we would tolerate for humans |
| <font color="CC6600">**a**</font> | animal |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> For all things, if something has negative rights, then we should not defend it from rights violations to any lesser degree than we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Wx→¬Nx))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Animals have negative rights.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Wa)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> If we should not defend animals from rights violations to any lesser degree than we would tolerate for humans, then it is permissible to prevent predation with lethal force to the same degree we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Na→F)</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, it is permissible to prevent predation with lethal force to the same degree we would tolerate for humans.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴F)</b>
<br />
<br />
</font>
</div>
[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Wx~5~3Nx)),(Wa),(~3Na~5F)|=(F))
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#vegan
#predators

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### Delicious Bivalve Argument
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">**B**</font> | something (x) counts as a brain |
| <font color="CC6600">**P**</font> | something (x) is a complex network of interconnected neurons |
| <font color="CC6600">**Q**</font> | something (x) integrates neuronal pathways from multiple sensory organs |
| <font color="CC6600">**R**</font> | something (x) presents with distinct functional regions |
| <font color="CC6600">**S**</font> | something (x) presents with nuclei with white matter tracts that facilitate inter-regional communication |
| <font color="CC6600">**N**</font> | the corresponding brainless biological system into which the cerebral ganglia are integrated (x) is not likely to be sentient |
| <font color="CC6600">**c**</font> | cerebral ganglia |
<div style="text-align: center">
<font color="CC6600">
<b>P1)</b></font> Something counts as a brain if, and only if, something is a complex network of interconnected neurons, integrates neuronal pathways from multiple sensory organs, and presents with distinct functional regions or nuclei with white matter tracts that facilitate inter-regional communication.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∀x(Bx↔Px∧Qx∧(Rx∨Sx)))</b>
<br />
<b>P2)</b></font> Cerebral ganglia meet criteria one and three, but not criteria two and four.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(Pc∧¬Qc∧Rc∧¬Sc)</b>
<br />
<b>P3)</b></font> If cerebral ganglia do not count as brains, then the corresponding brainless biological system into which the cerebral ganglia are integrated is not likely to be sentient.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(¬Bc→∀x(¬Nx))</b>
<br />
<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, bivalves are not likely to be sentient.
<br />
<font color="CC6600">
<b>(∴¬Nb)</b>
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[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Bx~4Px~1Qx~1(Rx~2Sx))),(Pc~1~3Qc~1Rc~1~3Sc),(~3Bc~5~6x(~3Nx))|=(~3Nb))
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### Argument for Bivalve Consumption
| <font color="CC6600">**Definiendum**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definiens**</font> |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:----------------------------------------- |
| <font color="CC6600">V</font> | it is vegan to consume (x) lifeform |
| <font color="CC6600">S</font> | (x) lifeform does have sentience |
| <font color="CC6600">b</font> | bivalves |
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<b>P1)</b></font> If it is not vegan to consume a lifeform, then the lifeform does have sentience.
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<b>(∀x(¬Vx→Sx)</b>
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<b>P2)</b></font> Bivalves do not have sentience.
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<b>(¬Sb)</b>
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<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, it is vegan to consume bivalves.
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<b>(∴Vb)</b>
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[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(~3Vx~5Sx)),(~3Sb)%7C=(Vb))
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### Ecological Harm Tho
| <font color="CC6600">**Variable**</font> | <font color="CC6600">**Definition**</font> |
|:----------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------ |
| <font color="CC6600">F</font> | the food is OK to eat |
| <font color="CC6600">H</font> | the food does cause ecological harm |
| <font color="CC6600">s</font> | soy |
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<b>P1)</b> <font color="DADADA">If the food is OK to eat, then the food does not cause ecological harm.</font>
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<b>(∀x(Fx→¬Hx))</b>
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<b>P2)</b> <font color="DADADA">Soy does cause ecological harm.</font>
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<b>(Hs)</b>
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<b>C)</b> <font color="DADADA">Therefore, soy is not OK to eat.</font>
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<b>(∴¬Fs)</b>
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[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(~6x(Fx~5~3Hx)),(Hs)|=(~3Fs))
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### Ganglia Tho Hypothetical
>For example, say we had a braindead body on life support, and some people (like loved ones) who would experience emotional well-being if you took them off life support. Would you say "screw their emotions, we should apply the precautionary principle to that body's cerebral ganglia". I personally wouldn't. I'd take the wishes of those people to supersede keeping the ganglia alive. Likewise, I can't think of a good reason to deny people well-being from eating oysters.
### Links
#### Biomass Distribution
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1711842115
#### Tumour Case Report
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28042664/
#### Mollusc Sentience
[[📂 Media/PDFs/sentience-in-cephalopod-molluscs-and-decapod-crustaceans-final-report-november-2021.pdf]]
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# Hashtags
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#philosophy
#sentience
#bivalves

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### A) Wild animal suffering should end.
>All else equal, is a world where sentient beings are getting torn to shreds and eaten alive or starving to death if they don't succumb to this fate better than a world where this does not happen?
### B) Wild animal procreation should end.
>All else equal, is a world where sentient beings are fucking (often without even implied consent) and impregnating each other without informed consent with respect to the risks of pregnancy, birth defects from inbreeding, or the extremely high risk that their children will be torn to shreds and eaten alive or starve to death better than a world where this does not happen?
### C) We favour less risky environments.
>All else equal, is a world where tens of thousands are killed, hundreds of thousands are injured or maimed, and up to millions are displaced or rendered homeless every year due to natural disasters alone better than a world where this does not happen?
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# Hashtags
#debate
#arguments
#animals