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Debate 1
Proposition
"That carnivore/hyper-carnivore is best for optimal human health and is ethically appropriate."
Analysis
- what does "carnivore/hyper-carnivore" mean? If this is an inclusive disjunction, whichever diet is "less" carnivorous than the other will be one being argued for.
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- what does "ethically appropriate" mean? What sort of ethics (rights, utility, rules?), Appropriate with regards to what?
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Clarified Proposition 1
"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt supplies the nutrients that humans need to develop."
Clarified Proposition 2
"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt is not shame-worthy."
Clarified Proposition 3
"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt lacks phytochemicals that cause damage to the human body."
Line of Questioning:
What's the evidence?
- Animal nutrients not found in plants
- Lack of animal foods causes nutritional deficiencies
- Brain size decreases with agriculture (not evidence)
- Phytochemicals in plants
- Pesticides in plants are carcinogenic (not evidence)
- Limited adaptations for eating plants
- Don't see carnivores benefitting from plants
- Plants want to defend themselves with chemicals
- Many anecdotes count in favour of the carnivore (not evidence)
- Blue zones eat a lot of meat and live the longest (not evidence)
- Carnivorous animals don't thrive on herbivorous diets (not evidence)
- The removal of fibre could help constipation
- We can only break down a small amount of the fibre
- RCTs show that animal fat is superior to plant fat
- MCE, SDHS, WHI (not evidence)
- Paleolithic humans had the same life span as modern humans despite not having access to modern medicine (not evidence)
- Maasi live to be over 100 (not evidence)
- Harvard carnivore study (not evidence)
Cherry on top
Whatever he says, ask him if he would accept the same for X diet
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