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Debate 1

Proposition

"That carnivore/hyper-carnivore is best for optimal human health and is ethically appropriate."

Analysis

  1. what does "carnivore/hyper-carnivore" mean? If this is an inclusive disjunction, whichever diet is "less" carnivorous than the other will be one being argued for.
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  2. what does "ethically appropriate" mean? What sort of ethics (rights, utility, rules?), Appropriate with regards to what?
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Clarified Proposition 1

"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt supplies the nutrients that humans need to develop."

Clarified Proposition 2

"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt is not shame-worthy."

Clarified Proposition 3

"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt lacks phytochemicals that cause damage to the human body."

Line of Questioning:

What's the evidence?

  1. Animal nutrients not found in plants
    • Lack of animal foods causes nutritional deficiencies
    • Brain size decreases with agriculture (not evidence)
  2. Phytochemicals in plants
    • Pesticides in plants are carcinogenic (not evidence)
  3. Limited adaptations for eating plants
    • Don't see carnivores benefitting from plants
  4. Plants want to defend themselves with chemicals
  5. Many anecdotes count in favour of the carnivore (not evidence)
  6. Blue zones eat a lot of meat and live the longest (not evidence)
  7. Carnivorous animals don't thrive on herbivorous diets (not evidence)
  8. The removal of fibre could help constipation
    • We can only break down a small amount of the fibre
  9. RCTs show that animal fat is superior to plant fat
    • MCE, SDHS, WHI (not evidence)
  10. Paleolithic humans had the same life span as modern humans despite not having access to modern medicine (not evidence)
    • Maasi live to be over 100 (not evidence)
  11. Harvard carnivore study (not evidence)

Cherry on top

Whatever he says, ask him if he would accept the same for X diet


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