# Debate 1

## Proposition

>"That carnivore/hyper-carnivore is best for optimal human health and is ethically appropriate."

## Analysis
1. what does "carnivore/hyper-carnivore" mean? If this is an inclusive disjunction, whichever diet is "less" carnivorous than the other will be one being argued for.
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2. what does "ethically appropriate" mean? What sort of ethics (rights, utility, rules?), Appropriate with regards to what?
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## Clarified Proposition 1

>"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt supplies the nutrients that humans need to develop."

## Clarified Proposition 2

>"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt is not shame-worthy."


## Clarified Proposition 3

>"Red muscle meat diet with some bone marrow and salt lacks phytochemicals that cause damage to the human body."

## Line of Questioning:

### What's the evidence?

1. Animal nutrients not found in plants
	 - Lack of animal foods causes nutritional deficiencies
	 - Brain size decreases with agriculture **(not evidence)**
2. Phytochemicals in plants 
	 - Pesticides in plants are carcinogenic **(not evidence)**
3. Limited adaptations for eating plants
	 - Don't see carnivores benefitting from plants
4. Plants want to defend themselves with chemicals
5. Many anecdotes count in favour of the carnivore **(not evidence)**
6. Blue zones eat a lot of meat and live the longest **(not evidence)**
7. Carnivorous animals don't thrive on herbivorous diets **(not evidence)**
8. The removal of fibre could help constipation
	 - We can only break down a small amount of the fibre
9. RCTs show that animal fat is superior to plant fat
	 - MCE, SDHS, WHI **(not evidence)**
 10. Paleolithic humans had the same life span as modern humans despite not having access to modern medicine **(not evidence)**
	 - Maasi live to be over 100 **(not evidence)**
 11. Harvard carnivore study **(not evidence)**

## Cherry on top

Whatever he says, ask him if he would accept the same for X diet

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