# Debate 1 ## Proposition >"veganism is immoral." ## Argument | **Definiendum** | **Definiens** | |:-------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------- | | **C** | one has an obligation to convince others of something (x) | | **M** | something (x) is a moral obligation | | **O** | it is immoral to convince others of something (x) | | **I** | something (x) is immoral | | **v** | veganism |
P1) One has an obligation to convince others of something if and only if that something is a moral obligation.
∀x(Cx↔Mx)
P2)
It is immoral to convince others of something if and only if that something is not a moral obligation.
∀x(Ox↔¬Mx
P3)
Veganism is not a moral obligation.
(¬Mv)
P4)
If it is immoral to convince others of veganism, then veganism is immoral.
()
C)
Therefore, veganism is immoral.
(∴Iv)

## Reductio | **Definiendum** | **Definiens** | |:----------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------ | | **C** | one has an obligation to convince others of something (x) | | **M** | something (x) is a moral obligation | | **b** | abstaining from baby rape |
P1) One has an obligation to convince others of something if and only if that something is a moral obligation..
(∀x(Cx↔Mx))
P2)
Abstaining from baby rape is a moral obligation..
(Mb)
C)
Therefore, one has an obligation to convince others to abstain from baby rape.
(∴Cb)

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