# Debate 1
## Proposition
>"veganism is immoral."
## Argument
| **Definiendum** | **Definiens** |
|:-------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------- |
| **C** | one has an obligation to convince others of something (x) |
| **M** | something (x) is a moral obligation |
| **O** | it is immoral to convince others of something (x) |
| **I** | something (x) is immoral |
| **v** | veganism |
P1) One has an obligation to convince others of something if and only if that something is a moral obligation.
∀x(Cx↔Mx)
P2) It is immoral to convince others of something if and only if that something is not a moral obligation.
∀x(Ox↔¬Mx
P3) Veganism is not a moral obligation.
(¬Mv)
P4) If it is immoral to convince others of veganism, then veganism is immoral.
()
C) Therefore, veganism is immoral.
(∴Iv)
## Reductio
| **Definiendum** | **Definiens** |
|:----------------------------------------:|:------------------------------------------ |
| **C** | one has an obligation to convince others of something (x) |
| **M** | something (x) is a moral obligation |
| **b** | abstaining from baby rape |
P1) One has an obligation to convince others of something if and only if that something is a moral obligation..
(∀x(Cx↔Mx))
P2) Abstaining from baby rape is a moral obligation..
(Mb)
C) Therefore, one has an obligation to convince others to abstain from baby rape.
(∴Cb)
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