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## Proposition
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>"It is more reasonable to believe that saturated fat-induced increases in serum cholesterol and/or LDL and/or ApoB will increase cardiovascular disease risk than it is to believe the opposite.""
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## Argument
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<div style="text-align: center">
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<font color="CC6600">
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<b>P1)</b></font> If measuring and controlling for "other factors" is required to establish a variable as an "independent causal agent", then in order to establish each "other factor" as an "independent causal agent", every other "other factor" needs to be measured and controlled for.
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<br />
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<font color="CC6600">
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<b>(P→Q)</b>
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<br />
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<b>P2)</b></font> Measuring and controlling for "other factors" is required to establish a variable as an "independent causal agent".
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<br />
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<font color="CC6600">
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<b>(P)</b>
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<br />
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<b>C)</b></font> Therefore, in order to establish each "other factor" as an "independent causal agent", every other "other factor" needs to be measured and controlled for.
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<br />
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<font color="CC6600">
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<b>(∴Q)</b>
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<br />
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<br />
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</font>
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</div>
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[Proof Tree](https://www.umsu.de/trees/#(P~5Q),(P)|=(Q))
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## Analysis
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1) Ask Miguel if he can recreate my position.
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3) Ask Miguel if "other factors" are independent causal agents.
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2) If no, ask why we should care about them or ask if they are confounders.
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3) If yes, run syllogism below.
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## Semantics
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1. Independent causal agent
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- when a risk factor retains its statistical association with the outcome when other factors for the outcome are included or excluded.
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2. Other factors
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- Obesity, especially visceral obesity
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- Insulin resistance
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- Hypertriglyceridemia
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- Metabolic syndrome
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- Type 2 diabetes
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- HIV disease
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- Low fat intake or diets enriched with polyunsaturated fat
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- Cigarette smoking
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- Liver disease
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- Renal insufficiency
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- Drugs
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- Isotretinoin
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- Sirolimus (rapamycin)
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- Protease inhibitors
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- Androgenic steroids
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- Nonselective B-blockers
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- Probucol
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- Recombinant interleukin-2
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- Moderate to severe hypertriglyceridemia
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- Critical illness:
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- sepsis
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- burns
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- small bowel exclusion
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- Anabolic steroids
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- Acquired LCAT deficiency
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- decreased ApoA-I synthesis
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- Severe cholestasis
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- Cholestatic liver disease with liver failure
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- Alcoholic hepatitis
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- Acute viral hepatitis
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- Alcoholic cirrhosis
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- Partial hepatectomy (temporary)
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- Stress
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- Genetics
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- Liver issues
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- Physical activity
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- Alcohol consumption
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- Sugar consumption
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## Receipts
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![[📂 Media/Images/Pasted image 20220611214046.png]]
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![[📂 Media/Images/Pasted image 20220611214100.png]]
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# Hashtags
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#debate
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#debate_opponents
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#clowns
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#clownery
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#philosophy
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#propositional_logic
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#de_morgans_laws
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